Most of the things I write have no genre.
I can’t query an agent that I’ve written a romance or horror, fantasy or historical fiction.
It’s tough to get your work looked at by anyone when you can’t explain what it is you’ve written. I can ramble on about the story but it’s easier to have a genre to pitch. At least initially.
Do not throw rotten tomatoes at me (you’ll only ruin your screen). I’m not saying it’s easy to get published, I’m saying it’s easier if you can categorize what you’ve written.
I wish my writing fit neatly into a specific genre.
The thing is, I write what I want and it’s not always tidy. Maybe my writing will become a new genre. And they’ll name it after me. And pigs will fly, hell will freeze over, and we’ll find out the moon really is made of cheese.
Working outside of known genres is risky but has a certain kind of freedom.
The freedom to fail. Sure, sure. That. But also to free fall. Which is exhilarating.
This could end with my parachute opening…or not.
Please, no betting in the comment section.
My Sunday thoughts in 200 words or less.
Do you write in a specific genre? Do you have writing that doesn’t fit into any genre you know of? If so, do you find it difficult to pitch your story?
I do write per genre, however I have potentially torpedoed my chance for success by not picking a single genre and running with it (I would however love to be proved wrong). First book was women’s lit/mystery. Second book was Scifi/cyberpunk. Blog is nonfiction. A WIP is more post-apocalyptic. I write what I read and I read more than one genre.
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I don’t think that’s true. I really don’t think you need to stick with one genre. So many authors write in different genres. Your books all sound awesome (and your blog is great so, IMO, you’re set).
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I really do just indulge and write in as many genres as I can. To me, the challenge is to vary styles and still retain my voice. That I can write a short story or a poem and people can say, maybe he did that. In all honesty, it’s all about having fun and I do love dancing outside my comfort zone. Although my second novel is done, I’m also finishing a bilingual collection whose goal is to show range. Essays, poetry, and short stories in English and Spanish. The stories in English, one about a boxer, another about cloud elves trying to get rain to the Earth, and the third, a boy who wishes upon wishes for a miracle, and he gets one. Related? Hell no. But fun? Every time 😀
Here’s to seeing that Lemon Brentyn category come forth. 😀
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Another multi-genre author. I love it. 🙂 It is a challenge to keep it real, keep your voice while varying styles. That’s awesome. I know, Mr. Joker, it’s all about having fun. But, once I’m done having fun, I want a beer in the sun. You know? No, you don’t. Because I don’t. Anyway. Glad you’re having fun. And I enjoy reading your words. So. Speaking of cloud elves boxing in a jar of wishes, don’t I owe you a collaboration? For fun? 😉
I love the image of you dancing outside your comfort zone. That’s kind of what I’m doing right now. Which is part of the reason I can’t find a genre. But, yes, I’m having fun with it. ❤
Lemon Brentyn… I like it!
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There are an amazing amount of sub-genres nowadays. All the best with picking a main one.
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There really are. I researched before this post thinking I’d find one to fit but…nothing. There’s an amazing assortment, though! 😜 Thanks!
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I can really relate to this after writing 58k words on what can only be described as ‘Vampire ChickLit’ – sigh!
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That’s an impressive word count. Keep at it. As Christine mentioned, there are so many sub-genres now, I’ll bet that fits into one. (Or two.) Either way, you have many fans waiting to read whenever you publish. 💛
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If stream of consciousness can be a genre, so can your “Sarah says it” genre. We might need a catchier title though. I enjoy your ponderings on the meaning of anything and everything. You also send a little tweak to the grey matter. Who wants to be in a genre the same as everybody else and write by their rules anyway? Make up your own. That way no one can tell you you’re wrong, cause if they do, they’ll be the ones who are wrong. Go girl. Follow your pen where it leads.
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I do write ‘stream of consciousness’. That is just the way the words flow. Sarah says! 🙂 How about Lemon Snark? Ponderings From the Sea? I do enjoy writing by my own rules. But, in this case, I sometimes wish I could categorize my writing to make things easier.
Thanks, Norah. 💖 I appreciate this. And I love “follow your pen where it leads”.
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Lemon Snark!!! That’s hilarious! (I haven’t been misreading “shark” have I?)
It is convenient to be able to apply a label to things, makes them easier to define and describe. But it also places restrictions upon them. Is that what you want? Another label? I think we need to brainstorm some ideas for a title that doesn’t restrict, but describes, somehow. I’ll start thinking about it. You never know, you may write yourself into it! As long as you enjoy, that’s all that matters. xx
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Haha! 🙂 No… It’s definitely the shark in these waters. You’re right. It’s a conundrum. Genre is much easier to define but does place certain restrictions. Freedom to fail, freedom to fly… Yes. Let’s brainstorm. (That’s such a fun word.) I’ll create some thunder and lightening here in the grey matter. P.S. I really am enjoying this latest work. ❤
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No genre for me either. It has pros and cons.
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It does. But you manage to find places that are a good fit for your writing… Actually, not sure if you’re talking about your fiction.
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Well they say that the landing kills you not the fall so keep on falling. I’m with you on genreless stories. I can’t categorise mine easily.
Don’t want to in truth.
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Well. I’ll be sure to keep falling then. No need to be squished by an untimely genre death. Hmm. ‘Falling Death’. Is that a genre? It should be.
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This is exactly me too…I can’t even define if my poetry is actually poetry sometimes. I love what you do anyway. #mast ❤
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Ha! I’m not sure, either. It’s epic for sure. Epic poetry? Well, it’s poetic anyway. Geez, Eric, now I’m wondering about your writing! Whatever its genre, it’s amazing. (And thank you.) 💙 #mast
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Thank you, Sarah! 💙 I have settled on a quasi – definition of it. I’ve decided to call it Alagorical Fantasy. 😉 Especially the Pantheon Series pieces.
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Alagorical Fantasy! I LOVE it! I love that so much. It’s perfect. You did it. 💙
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Also, and closer to an actual category, is Mythic Fiction. 🙂 ❤
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I like that one, too. And it describes your writing well. That might be a good one for real. 💙
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I don’t care what genre you write in, Sarah, I’ll still read it! You’ve got an amazing ‘voice’ and your personal style is sheer joy to read: it’s quirky, it’s you, it challenges me to think, it’s funny… I could keep going. Please don’t stop writing. Agent or no agent. After all, there’s always a self-publishing option, and your loyal readers.
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You sweet, lovely lady. ❤ I'm not even sure what to say. And that is saying something. You know, for me. Because I ramble. I mean I tend to. And with the stream of consciousness writing… I truly appreciate this, Gulara. Thank you.
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I write in multiple genres. My short stories are Gothic horror, and I have one series that are pulp or weird Westerns, and the one is horror dark fantasy. I envy authors who can say “I’m a sci fi author”.
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Your books sound so deliciously quirky and fun. I’ve seen many authors write in different genres but yours are such a wonderfully eclectic mix. I know what you mean about envying writers who can just state, “I’m a romance author” or whatever…horror, sci-fi, fantasy. *sigh* But, on the other hand, I envy you. So… Grass is always greener?
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Write what you want to write! 😀
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i guess when i fumble to say what genre it belongs to, i would just call it “experimental” or “conceptual” writing, whatever the ‘ell those two terms mean.
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Haha! I’ve no idea what the ‘ell those mean, either, but I’m thinking of using them.
My new pitch: “So I’m writing this ‘experimental’ piece in the ‘conceptual’ style.
Done. I love it!
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Believe it or not experimental is a recognised genre. Hybrid is also often used to describe writing that is neither one or the other.
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Irene! Thank you. How did I miss that one? I’d read up on a LOT of genres and sub-genres. I think I may have found myself a genre… 🙂
Hybrid I knew and the WriteOnSisters wrote a great post Genre Mashups about two genres being represented equally in the work: Romantic Comedy, Sci-fi Fantasy, Historical Romance…
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I bet…. jokes.
I am genred up. But that’s only because I write stories I want to read, and the stories I want to read happen to be in a genre. If they weren’t i wouldn’t.
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Is this a riddle? 😉
You never know. In another life you may have fancied mysteries or westerns. But, yah, you definitely have the dystopian genre working for you. (Also a couple other genres?) Plus, if you can say you write YA, an agent can say whether or not he or she reps YA. Then you’re set. Or searching. Still. It’s nice.
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The downside of any classification system is that they are often to benefit the powerful (I’m being footloose and fancy free with my thoughts here, not sure what genre to fit my comment into, but I’m starting off thinking about psychiatry, against which creative writing doesn’t seem quite so bad) who like things neat and tidy and struggle to acknowledge that not everything will fit.
I agree, easier to get published if you know what you’ve written and much easier to know what you’ve written once you’ve published it and gauged people’s responses – Catch-22, as much of life is – but I didn’t know I had written a political novel until recently. Better stop now or my comment will be as long as your post.
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I’m trying to wrap my brain around this footloose and fancy free comment with the creative psychiatry focus on the fact that things aren’t always going to neatly fit. *wipes brow* “easier to get published if you know what you’ve written and much easier to know what you’ve written once you’ve published it and gauged people’s responses…” Yes. That certainly is a Catch-22.
Okay, so how did you pitch Sugar and Snails? What genre were you thinking it was at the time? (And I missed the memo of it being a political novel.
Unless that’s not the one you’re talking about…)
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10 says she shorts it!
Oh, sorry, no betting. 🙂
I do feel like genre fiction is so popular these days that the initial pitch (and maybe sale) is aided by finding an editor/agent who works in your genre. If you don’t have a genre, you have to find another way to hook their interest.
Always thought-provoking posts here — thank you!
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Twenty.
Oh, wait. Is this the part where we exchange money or is this the part where I’m anxiously awaiting disaster and say, “No bet”? 😉
Genre fiction. Yes. That. And, yes, also, to the initial pitch being helped by finding an agent who works in your genre. I guess I’ll be working on another way to hook interest. Unless my fiction morphs into something that I can later fit into a genre. Which is possible. Thanks. ❤
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I write fantasy pretty much all the time. I mean, I’m a squirrel…
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Trying to constrain myself to this reality is too hard, and I don’t like it when writing shifts from passion to obligation to stick to something in particular. My sub-genre might change depending on what I’m writing. Derek is epic and dark. Cera is comedy and whatever she darn well pleases.
I think it’s fun not being held to rules. Revel in the freedom!
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The comment ate my sly looking faces!!! Curse you, WordPress! *shakes furry fist at sky* Oooh, look! A nut! *darts off*
PS, since I know you edit comments, this is what I was trying to do:
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If it doesn’t work this time, feel free to delete both the above and the previous comment.
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I will fix it but I simply can’t delete either of these. They’re too amusing. #SorryNotSorry 😝
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Ah, your sub-genre changes but you still write fantasy. I mean, all your books fall under the fantasy genre, no? Speaking of Cera… When do I get to read more of her adventures? 🙂
Okay, I will try to revel in the freedom (while I wonder how I will ever publish anything).
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I know I’m late to the comments, but I’ll echo everyone else – write whatever you feel, don’t worry about genre 🙂
My books all have a fantasy element but they’re tough to fit into specific genres. But that’s how the stories came to me. I imagine it’s the same for you.
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Exactly. The stories came to me, as did the characters, and that’s how I write them. I’ll bet yours fit into a sub-genre of fantasy. I don’t worry about it while I’m writing but then I wonder what I’m going to do with them.
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Well, you would think that, but they don’t 😀 So I just stick with high fantasy or speculative fiction for now. Maybe we need to start our own new genre!
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I actually thought of speculative fiction. That’s the closest I could find… Yes. We should create our own genre. Still thinking up a name. 🙂
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Mmm, yes, I can sympathize with this. Not that I write a ton that I submit, but what I do write is kind of all over the place. And I’m not sure that I’m particularly *good* at any one form. So there’s that. 😀
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You’re very good. Stop it. Yours are all nonfiction, aren’t they? Or creative nonfiction? Or personal essay? (What the heck do those crazy kids call it these days?) And you write lovely poetry. What am I missing?
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You are so kind. I’m not sure what it’s called… creative personal narrative???
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This question has nothing do with today’s topic…but… How are you able to write such pithy posts in 200 words or less?
About lit genres: I find the thought of all the genres and subgenres a little overwhelming when it comes to my writing. I’m a whiz (or so I think) at categorizing others’ pieces, but not my own. Hmm…a good topic to ponder on this rainy Thursday afternoon.
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I don’t know! The Thought Bubbles started out as a challenge for myself and morphed into this huge “thing” that’s completely taken over. It’s like a 50s sci-fi film. “The Blob That Took Over the Blog”
Yeah, there are so many genres and sub-genres now it really is overwhelming. (But, also, another reason I find it strange I can’t place my writing into one of them.) If you’re such a whiz at placing others’ writing… You know what I’m going to say now, don’t you? I mean, you have to know. 🙂
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Oops – I should have said I *think* I’m a whiz at categorizing others’ writing, but since you asked, I keep wanting to classify your blog as a branch of Literary Criticism. I say this because it seems you often analyze and discuss goals & themes of blogging. Also, I bet you’re a genius at deconstruction.
As for your phrase “The Blob That Took Over the Blog”, it’s brilliant! Wish I’d thought of it.
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Whoa! Head rush. That is awesome. I love it! A branch of Literary Criticism. So completely cool. And genius? Well, I don’t know about that. *emails everyone I know* But deconstruction is kind of fun. Analyzing stuff… Am I the only nerd in the house?! “Nerds Unite! Woohoo!” No? Anyone?
But my fiction writing… That’s what I’m wondering about. What the heck is it? No idea. I think it might be speculative or experimental…
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I know what you’re saying. Although I’ve never had anything published, I always write whatever I want – I’ve never tried to fit into a specific genre. But lots of writers seem to choose a genre they like, then study it a bit and learn the conventions, THEN start to write. I’m not sure I could do that but there are a lot of talented writers who do!
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I write whatever comes to mind (literally). Hee. That was fun.
Agreed, I’m not sure I could write to a specific genre as in researching it and then trying to fit my writing into it. I guess a lot of authors do that, though. And, hey, it works for them so… Although, since you’ve brought it up, I did write a post about pulp fiction and am trying to write some pulp now so apparently I do. 🙂
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I definitely fit into the genre of memoir so I don’t have a problem for myself. I can see your problem though and speculative might be your best fit. In reality it doesn’t matter apart from where on the bookshelf the bookshop is going to put your books in order to sell them. Mine will probably not be put in a memoir section but rather in travel or true adventure. So even when you have a genre others can decided otherwise.
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You are so right. “So even when you have a genre others can decided otherwise.” I’ve seen movies listed as thrillers or romances when I thought they were horror or action. It’s very weird. Readers (and publishers) will probably decide what genre they think you’ve written. Doesn’t make the initial pitch easier but, ultimately, it’s somewhat out of the writer’s control.
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Yes it’s getting them to look at it first that is the hard part and that too is largely out of the writer’s control.
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Fair enough. That, too, can be out of our control.
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Love this Sarah. I think many writers in this new era have been faced with having to create a cross breed of genre. I think I’m in that boat too lol. I write all my books in memoir/self-help/nonfiction. Try narrowing those down, lol. 🙂 We are the new breed.:)
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I think you’re right. Genre-mashing seems to be where it’s at.
I do wish I could fit neatly into a specific genre as I think it would be easier to market but I’m not going to change what I love to write so… I guess I’ll have to deal. 🙂
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Amen sistah! 🙂
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I enjoy your eclectic mix of topics. I, too, write about many different things. I prefer it that way. There are topics within my overall life stories that I’d like to turn into books. Currently, I’m busy like you, living life and recognizing fodder for essays, stories, blogs all around. Too much to remember if I don’t speak it into my phone notes asap. I like writing whatever strikes my fancy. If boxed in, my joy turns into work.
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Ha! I use my notes all the time, too. (I used to “write” whole posts/essays/flash in notes and email it to myself but that backfired and is another story.) But, yes, so many ideas and too much to remember especially if you write whatever you like whenever you like. Which, apparently, we both do. 🙂 Joy!
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